tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434495502175776916.post1163821166075760961..comments2023-04-06T02:43:43.759-07:00Comments on Bitching my way to the Brightside: Flip This LawCrankyOtterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02863609824154763580noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434495502175776916.post-22337343951576845482008-11-14T16:37:00.000-08:002008-11-14T16:37:00.000-08:00S: You are always so practical. Yeah, I was worri...S: You are always so practical. Yeah, I was worried about situations like the one you described. I don't think there should only be the one option of "give the kids up forever" either, but if people are desperate, it's good if they can get the kids out of the line of fire before the trigger gets pulled.<BR/><BR/>G: As for good news, see the new post.<BR/><BR/>AL: The whole abortion post is still filtering. I'm just not sure when to spring it on folk.CrankyOtterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02863609824154763580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434495502175776916.post-49035494268540643462008-11-14T15:09:00.000-08:002008-11-14T15:09:00.000-08:00I think it's reasonable to put an age limit of a m...I think it's reasonable to put an age limit of a month on the no-questions-asked Safe Haven law. Older than that, and I think there should definitely be some option to relinquish a child, but it should be done in such a way that things like the child's medical records and school records are passed along.<BR/><BR/>I don't know what options different states have for relinquishing older kids. I met a women when I was volunteering at a batterd women's shelter in MA. A couple years earlier, the woman had asked DSS to take her two kids because she couldn't manage raising them on her own. (I believe they were toddlers, and the mom was about 20.) DSS said the kids weren't abused, and wouldn't take them. So she took the kids home, beat them up, brought them back to DSS, and said, "Will you take them now?" And they did.<BR/><BR/>Clearly, *that* is a system far more f'ed up than Nebraska's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434495502175776916.post-48437472232368980572008-11-14T09:34:00.000-08:002008-11-14T09:34:00.000-08:00{{{{{HUGS}}}}} right back!Still hopeful!!{{{{{HUGS}}}}} right back!<BR/><BR/>Still hopeful!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434495502175776916.post-89310839563000100072008-11-14T09:28:00.000-08:002008-11-14T09:28:00.000-08:00*waving at Gail*I'm with you on the good news fron...*waving at Gail*<BR/><BR/>I'm with you on the good news front.aztecladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14857872357667370906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434495502175776916.post-77445462999566893962008-11-14T09:04:00.000-08:002008-11-14T09:04:00.000-08:00Doesn't this bring to mind all of those stories of...Doesn't this bring to mind all of those stories of the Oklahoma Dust Bowl and the Depression era when people were doing much the same thing?<BR/><BR/>One story that comes repeatedly to my mind was depicted in the movie 'Seabiscuit' --- when the parents gave their oldest son to the 'horse trainer' because they couldn't afford to keep him.<BR/><BR/>Orphanages were filled to capacity.<BR/><BR/>Same as during the times before/after the War Between the States --- the 'orphan trains' --- not all of those children were orphans.<BR/><BR/>Seems as though the harder the times the more often the children suffer. <BR/><BR/>Sad --- but I don't see it as directly tied to the abortion issue. Many parents have a child because they 'think' they want them --- a bid for 'unconditional love' that fades when the child develops a personality.<BR/><BR/>All that said --- I have no clue what the solution is --- but I think that the 'child protection laws' are part of the issue. They have gone overboard in a bid to protect the child at all costs --- which in turn takes all rights and power away from the parent/adult --- which in turn creates uncontrollable children --- which in turn creates a mess with 'child abandonment' ....<BR/><BR/>Vicious cycle feeding on a vicious cycle ....<BR/><BR/>*sigh* I really need so good news!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3434495502175776916.post-52016060094403524382008-11-14T05:44:00.000-08:002008-11-14T05:44:00.000-08:00I probably have to get some coffee and think more ...I probably have to get some coffee and think more before saying anything but...<BR/><BR/>No state can afford to support the many children of all ages being abandoned all over the country; imprisoning parents for it only costs the system more money.<BR/><BR/>Add all the trauma and issues those abandoned children grow up with--and I frankly don't know whether it's worse to be abandoned as a baby or as an older child; to be told, "you are more trouble than you are worth".<BR/><BR/>Women are forced to bear those children (by making abortion difficult if not outright illegal) whether they want them or not, and while it's easier to say, "they shouldn't get pregnant to begin with, ergo they shouldn't have sex" and call it a day, that part? it ain't gonna happen.<BR/><BR/>/rant<BR/><BR/>*off to get some coffee*aztecladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14857872357667370906noreply@blogger.com